>> it might have been 20. >> That's all that matters. >> The richest podcasters, the most uh lucratively paid podcasters in the United States of America. And >> there was some names on that list. There was heavy hitters. >> Number one was Joe Rogan. No surprise there. I think he came in like 80 million. >> Damn. >> 86 million. [clears throat] >> Annually, I fig I mean, but it was it was interesting. Listen, there were some people in there I didn't expect like um the football players Kelsey. Uh >> oh, Kelsey. >> I didn't know they was making that much money that fast. >> How could you not? >> I